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Mr Fox at 20:27, 30 August 2026

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	Although non-violent, the Liminal State recognizes that other groups or nations might not respect our own self-determination, and we will defend that right vigorously. Therefore, the Liminal State will exercise its right to develop a formidable military for defensive purposes and will protect its borders aggressively. While diplomacy is the highest priority to the Liminal State, we will not bow to outside forces.		Although non-violent, the Liminal State recognizes that other groups or nations might not respect our own self-determination, and we will defend that right vigorously. Therefore, the Liminal State will exercise its right to develop a formidable military for defensive purposes and will protect its borders aggressively. While diplomacy is the highest priority to the Liminal State, we will not bow to outside forces.

	Should there come a time to defend ourselves, the Liminal State will never act proactively. We will defend ourselves at our Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), and will actively pursue the most advanced military equipment to aid us in this endeavor. Switzerland could be a model to emulate, and ~~we will~~ take lessons from them and their perseverance through WWII.		Should there come a time to defend ourselves, the Liminal State will never act proactively. We will defend ourselves at our Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), and will actively pursue the most advanced military and equipment to aid us in this endeavor. Switzerland could be a model to emulate, and other nations should take lessons from them and their perseverance through WWII in regards to how the Liminal State will operate when threatened.

	In addition to the defense of our border from hostile forces, immigration will also be highly regulated. The Liminal State will be the new beacon on the hill, and it will be a desirable destination to those not living within a Liminal State. For that reason, immigration will be available through a straight-forward legal process with the amount limited to ensure a healthy population level. ~~Illegal~~ immigration ~~within~~ the Liminal State will not exist.		In addition to the defense of our border from hostile forces, immigration will also be highly regulated. The Liminal State will be the new beacon on the hill, and it will be a desirable destination to those not living within a Liminal State. For that reason, asylum and immigration will be available through a straight-forward legal process with the amount allowed limited to ensure a healthy population level. Aggressive border defense means illegal immigration into the Liminal State will not exist.

	==== Non-Lethal Defense ====		==== Non-Lethal Defense ====
	~~And yet the~~ Liminal State will continue to think outside the box and develop non-lethal means of defense and techniques to subdue forces that may wish to cause harm to the Liminal State. The future of war should not be assumed to include mass casualties, and the Liminal State will pioneer this endeavor. Killing others only leads to resentment and more people willing to give their lives to avenge the death of loved ones, compatriots, and ideologies. Killing in the name of war is only a path towards more wars, so the Liminal State will do everything possible to work peacefully towards international resolutions and, even in war, minimize casualties.		The Liminal State will continue to think outside the box and develop non-lethal means of defense and techniques to subdue forces that may wish to cause harm to the Liminal State. The future of war should not be assumed to include mass casualties, whether soldiers or civilians, and the Liminal State will pioneer this endeavor. Killing others only leads to resentment and more people willing to give their lives to avenge the death of loved ones, compatriots, and ideologies. Killing in the name of war is only a path towards more wars, so the Liminal State will do everything possible to work peacefully towards international resolutions and, even in war, minimize casualties.

	=== '''International Affairs''' ===		=== '''International Affairs''' ===

	==== Objective ====		==== Objective ====
	The behavior of the Liminal State prior to any conflict is really most important. Instead of wielding economic might or military force to coerce other nations to behave as we would deem most agreeable or in our best interests, we instead will always maintain neutrality in any conflicts outside our borders.		The behavior of the Liminal State prior to any conflict is really most important. Instead of wielding economic might, military force, or clandestine operations to coerce other nations to behave as we would deem most agreeable or in our best interests, we instead will always maintain neutrality in any conflicts outside our borders.

	==== Active Engagement ====		==== Active Engagement ====
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	==== Protecting People ====		==== Protecting People ====
	The employment of embargos and sanctions harms the people most in need in other nations, and we will do everything within our power to help people abroad after employing our own domestic success. We will be the role model for other nations and all people, and we will call all our friends. It is through this work and cooperation that we will be able to offer the world the most help, up until that time that an international coalition of all nations is able to police the unjust activities of ~~all nations~~.		The employment of embargos and sanctions harms the people most in need in other nations, not to mention the economic and political ramifications at home, and we will do everything within our power to help people abroad after employing our own domestic success. We will be the role model for other nations and all people, and we will call all our friends. It is through this work and cooperation that we will be able to offer the world the most help, up until that time that an international coalition of all nations is able to police the unjust activities of every nation.

	==== Liminal State Rights ====		==== Liminal State Rights ====
	Just because the Liminal State does not take sides in international conflicts and politics does not mean that it would continue to trade arms with an aggressor. The Liminal State reserves the sovereign right to trade or limit trade with anyone and for anything.		Just because the Liminal State does not take sides in international conflicts and politics does not mean that it would continue to trade arms with an aggressor. The Liminal State reserves the sovereign right to trade or limit trade with anyone and for anything.

	Using the ''Neighborhood'' example, this means that, while we would not intervene with two neighbors fighting with each other, we would not be obligated to sell either of those neighbors a gun, even if one or both had previously purchased guns from us before. Rather we would reserve the right to help the non-aggressor with something like security cameras or a a stun gun, though a casserole and offer of childcare to both would be preferable.		Using the ''Neighborhood'' example, this means that, while we would not intervene with two neighbors fighting with each other outside of offering impartial mediation, we would not be obligated to sell either of those neighbors a gun, even if one or both had previously purchased guns from us before. Rather we would reserve the right to help the non-aggressor with something like security cameras or a a stun gun, though a casserole and offer of childcare to both would be preferable.

	=== '''International Atrocities''' ===		=== '''International Atrocities''' ===
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	But that’s not how these stories end. If we, as neighbors, go in and beat up those parents so they stop hurting their children, do we really expect those children to thank us? They won’t, because what are they to do now? We’ve left them helpless and their family broken. Maybe we set up a democracy for that other nation, which is the equivalent of sending those children to foster care, but those kids will not end up any better for our involvement, and will probably end up worse (as will we too for having interfered).		But that’s not how these stories end. If we, as neighbors, go in and beat up those parents so they stop hurting their children, do we really expect those children to thank us? They won’t, because what are they to do now? We’ve left them helpless and their family broken. Maybe we set up a democracy for that other nation, which is the equivalent of sending those children to foster care, but those kids will not end up any better for our involvement, and will probably end up worse (as will we too for having interfered).

	This simple fact is why the Liminal State does not get involved in other nation’s affairs, regardless of how bad the people are treated. There is no way to step in and make a change for good by using force or ~~demands~~. Every time this has happened, it's only created a new generation of terrorists, actively working to break our nation for stepping in.		This simple fact is why the Liminal State does not get involved in other nation’s affairs, regardless of how bad the people are treated. There is no way to step in and make a change for good by using demands, force, or coercion. Every time this has happened in our modern world, it's only created a new generation of terrorists, actively working to break our nation for stepping in.

	==== Ideal Situation ====		==== Ideal Situation ====

Mr Fox at 18:09, 26 August 2026

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	Should there come a time to defend ourselves, the Liminal State will never act proactively. We will defend ourselves at our Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), and will actively pursue the most advanced military equipment to aid us in this endeavor. Switzerland could be a model to emulate, and we will take lessons from them and their perseverance through WWII.		Should there come a time to defend ourselves, the Liminal State will never act proactively. We will defend ourselves at our Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), and will actively pursue the most advanced military equipment to aid us in this endeavor. Switzerland could be a model to emulate, and we will take lessons from them and their perseverance through WWII.

			In addition to the defense of our border from hostile forces, immigration will also be highly regulated. The Liminal State will be the new beacon on the hill, and it will be a desirable destination to those not living within a Liminal State. For that reason, immigration will be available through a straight-forward legal process with the amount limited to ensure a healthy population level. Illegal immigration within the Liminal State will not exist.

	==== Non-Lethal Defense ====		==== Non-Lethal Defense ====

Mr Fox at 22:19, 12 August 2026

2026-08-12T22:19:24Z

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	In the case of a foreign nation badly treating their citizens, there are no international police, nor a strong international body with the necessary legal infrastructure and cooperative agreements in place to ensure the citizen’s welfare. And we cannot be the ones to take matters into our own hands, no matter how much we would wish to.		In the case of a foreign nation badly treating their citizens, there are no international police, nor a strong international body with the necessary legal infrastructure and cooperative agreements in place to ensure the citizen’s welfare. And we cannot be the ones to take matters into our own hands, no matter how much we would wish to.

	And in reality, international involvement is rarely, if ever, about helping those other citizens. Excuses to help the people of abusive governments are just that, excuses. Instead it's about power, influence, and money, and those countries ~~who~~ have the power, influence, and money keeping and extending it.		And in reality, international involvement is rarely, if ever, about helping those other citizens. Excuses to help the people of abusive governments are just that, excuses. Instead it's about power, influence, and money, and those countries that have the power, influence, and money keeping and extending it.

	==== Future Work ====		==== Future Work ====

Mr Fox at 22:16, 12 August 2026

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	==== Harsh Reality ====		==== Harsh Reality ====
	But that’s not how these stories end. If we, as neighbors, go in and beat up those parents so they stop hurting their children, do we really expect those children to thank us? They won’t, because what are they to do now? We’ve left them helpless and their family broken. Maybe we set up a democracy for that other nation, which is the equivalent of sending those children to foster ~~parents~~, but those kids will not end up any better for our involvement, and will probably end up worse (as will we too for having interfered).		But that’s not how these stories end. If we, as neighbors, go in and beat up those parents so they stop hurting their children, do we really expect those children to thank us? They won’t, because what are they to do now? We’ve left them helpless and their family broken. Maybe we set up a democracy for that other nation, which is the equivalent of sending those children to foster care, but those kids will not end up any better for our involvement, and will probably end up worse (as will we too for having interfered).

	This simple fact is why the Liminal State does not get involved in other nation’s affairs, regardless of how bad the people are treated. There is no way to step in and make a change for good by using force or demands. Every time this has happened, it's only created a new generation of terrorists, actively working to break our nation for stepping in.		This simple fact is why the Liminal State does not get involved in other nation’s affairs, regardless of how bad the people are treated. There is no way to step in and make a change for good by using force or demands. Every time this has happened, it's only created a new generation of terrorists, actively working to break our nation for stepping in.
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	In the case of a foreign nation badly treating their citizens, there are no international police, nor a strong international body with the necessary legal infrastructure and cooperative agreements in place to ensure the citizen’s welfare. And we cannot be the ones to take matters into our own hands, no matter how much we would wish to.		In the case of a foreign nation badly treating their citizens, there are no international police, nor a strong international body with the necessary legal infrastructure and cooperative agreements in place to ensure the citizen’s welfare. And we cannot be the ones to take matters into our own hands, no matter how much we would wish to.

			And in reality, international involvement is rarely, if ever, about helping those other citizens. Excuses to help the people of abusive governments are just that, excuses. Instead it's about power, influence, and money, and those countries who have the power, influence, and money keeping and extending it.

	==== Future Work ====		==== Future Work ====

Mr Fox at 22:04, 12 August 2026

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	Just because the Liminal State does not take sides in international conflicts and politics does not mean that it would continue to trade arms with an aggressor. The Liminal State reserves the sovereign right to trade or limit trade with anyone and for anything.		Just because the Liminal State does not take sides in international conflicts and politics does not mean that it would continue to trade arms with an aggressor. The Liminal State reserves the sovereign right to trade or limit trade with anyone and for anything.

	Using the ''Neighborhood'' example, this means that, while we would not intervene with two ~~other~~ neighbors fighting with each other, we would not be obligated to sell either of those neighbors a gun, even if one or both had previously purchased guns from us before. Rather we would reserve the right to help the non-aggressor with something like security cameras or a a stun gun, though a casserole and offer of childcare to both would be preferable.		Using the ''Neighborhood'' example, this means that, while we would not intervene with two neighbors fighting with each other, we would not be obligated to sell either of those neighbors a gun, even if one or both had previously purchased guns from us before. Rather we would reserve the right to help the non-aggressor with something like security cameras or a a stun gun, though a casserole and offer of childcare to both would be preferable.

	=== '''International Atrocities''' ===		=== '''International Atrocities''' ===

Mr Fox at 21:58, 12 August 2026

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	Just because the Liminal State does not take sides in international conflicts and politics does not mean that it would continue to trade arms with an aggressor. The Liminal State reserves the sovereign right to trade or limit trade with anyone and for anything.		Just because the Liminal State does not take sides in international conflicts and politics does not mean that it would continue to trade arms with an aggressor. The Liminal State reserves the sovereign right to trade or limit trade with anyone and for anything.

	Using the ''Neighborhood'' example, this means that, while we would not intervene with two other neighbors fighting with each other, we would not be obligated to ~~lend~~ either of those neighbors a gun if ~~they asked~~. Rather we ~~might choose~~ to ~~bring each~~ a casserole and offer ~~them~~ childcare.		Using the ''Neighborhood'' example, this means that, while we would not intervene with two other neighbors fighting with each other, we would not be obligated to sell either of those neighbors a gun, even if one or both had previously purchased guns from us before. Rather we would reserve the right to help the non-aggressor with something like security cameras or a a stun gun, though a casserole and offer of childcare to both would be preferable.

	=== '''International Atrocities''' ===		=== '''International Atrocities''' ===

Mr Fox at 19:30, 1 August 2026

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	The Liminal State uses the model of ~~“The Neighborhood” to~~ explain complex ideas and situations in simple and easily understood ways. While each person’s concept of a neighborhood may be different, the commonalities among each of these views is what still makes this model an apt construct to demonstrate all the ways in which the Liminal State works, at every level, with all demographics, and in each situation.		The Liminal State uses the model of the ''"Neighborhood''” to explain complex ideas and situations in simple and easily understood ways. While each person’s concept of a neighborhood may be different, the commonalities among each of these views is what still makes this model an apt construct to demonstrate all the ways in which the Liminal State works, at every level, with all demographics, and in each situation.

	=== '''International Relationships''' ===		=== '''International Relationships''' ===

	==== Ambition ====		==== Ambition ====
	To understand the perspective of the Liminal State in regards to international relationships, let’s consider this dynamic in regards to the ~~neighborhood~~.		To understand the perspective of the Liminal State in regards to international relationships, let’s consider this dynamic in regards to the ''Neighborhood''.

	There is a family living across the street, and they look different, speak a different language, and practice a different religion. Because the Liminal State respects self-determination, and even finds these differences valuable, that means we would allow our neighbors to live their different lives, without comments, discouragement, corrections, or actions. We would also expect them to refrain from telling us how to live or intervening in our lives.		There is a family living across the street, and they look different, speak a different language, and practice a different religion. Because the Liminal State respects self-determination, and even finds these differences valuable, that means we would allow our neighbors to live their different lives, without comments, discouragement, corrections, or actions. We would also expect them to refrain from telling us how to live or intervening in our lives.
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	==== Non-Lethal Defense ====		==== Non-Lethal Defense ====
	And yet the Liminal State will continue to think outside the box and develop non-lethal means of defense and techniques to subdue forces that may wish to cause harm to the Liminal State. The future of war should not be assumed to include mass casualties, and the Liminal State will pioneer this ~~endeavour~~. Killing others only leads to resentment and more people willing to give their lives to avenge the death of loved ones, ~~compatriates~~, and ideologies. Killing in the name of war is only a path towards more wars, so the Liminal State will do everything possible to work peacefully towards international resolutions and, even in war, minimize casualties.		And yet the Liminal State will continue to think outside the box and develop non-lethal means of defense and techniques to subdue forces that may wish to cause harm to the Liminal State. The future of war should not be assumed to include mass casualties, and the Liminal State will pioneer this endeavor. Killing others only leads to resentment and more people willing to give their lives to avenge the death of loved ones, compatriots, and ideologies. Killing in the name of war is only a path towards more wars, so the Liminal State will do everything possible to work peacefully towards international resolutions and, even in war, minimize casualties.

	=== '''International Affairs''' ===		=== '''International Affairs''' ===
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	==== Liminal State Rights ====		==== Liminal State Rights ====
	Just because ~~we do~~ not take sides in an international ~~conflict~~ does not mean that we would continue to trade arms with an aggressor. The Liminal State reserves the sovereign right to trade or limit trade with anyone and for anything.		Just because the Liminal State does not take sides in international conflicts and politics does not mean that it would continue to trade arms with an aggressor. The Liminal State reserves the sovereign right to trade or limit trade with anyone and for anything.

	Using the ~~neighborhood~~ example, this means that, while we would not intervene with two other neighbors fighting with each other, we would not be obligated to lend either of those neighbors a gun if they asked. Rather we might choose to bring each a casserole and offer them childcare.		Using the ''Neighborhood'' example, this means that, while we would not intervene with two other neighbors fighting with each other, we would not be obligated to lend either of those neighbors a gun if they asked. Rather we might choose to bring each a casserole and offer them childcare.

	=== '''International Atrocities''' ===		=== '''International Atrocities''' ===
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	It is difficult as people and as nations to watch another nation abuse its citizens, amass wealth to the detriment of its people, or mistreat and kill those that speak out or have alternative beliefs and worldviews to those in power.		It is difficult as people and as nations to watch another nation abuse its citizens, amass wealth to the detriment of its people, or mistreat and kill those that speak out or have alternative beliefs and worldviews to those in power.

	Let’s again consider the example of the ~~neighborhood~~ and our neighbors across the street. We see the parents abusing their children. Maybe the parents even lock the children up in inhumane conditions. Human nature and empathy instinctually want us to protect those children, but the Liminal State is also founded on the principles of self-determination. This may appear to be a dilemma, but there’s still a clear path forward.		Let’s again consider the example of the ''Neighborhood'' and our neighbors across the street. We see the parents abusing their children. Maybe the parents even lock the children up in inhumane conditions. Human nature and empathy instinctually want us to protect those children, but the Liminal State is also founded on the principles of self-determination. This may appear to be a dilemma, but there’s still a clear path forward.

	==== Current Practice ====		==== Current Practice ====
	Our nations and worldviews today tell us that it’s just and right to go in and make these other nations be better to the people, and we use force, coercion, and other underhanded methods to try and achieve those ends. Because we believe we are better than them, we must stand up and do something for them.		Our nations and worldviews today, stemming from historic imperialistic perspectives, tell us that it’s just and right to go in and make these other nations be better to the people or stop some policy, and we use force, coercion, and other underhanded methods to try and achieve those ends. Because we believe we are better than them, we must stand up and do something for them.

	==== Harsh Reality ====		==== Harsh Reality ====
	But that’s not how these stories end. If we, as neighbors, go in and beat up those parents so they stop hurting their children, do we really expect those children to thank us? They won’t, because what are they to do now? We’ve left them helpless and their family broken. Maybe we set up a democracy for that other nation, which is the equivalent of sending those children to foster parents, but those kids will not end up any better for our involvement, and ~~may~~ end up worse.		But that’s not how these stories end. If we, as neighbors, go in and beat up those parents so they stop hurting their children, do we really expect those children to thank us? They won’t, because what are they to do now? We’ve left them helpless and their family broken. Maybe we set up a democracy for that other nation, which is the equivalent of sending those children to foster parents, but those kids will not end up any better for our involvement, and will probably end up worse (as will we too for having interfered).

	This simple fact is why the Liminal State does not get involved in other nation’s affairs, regardless of how bad the people are treated. There is no way to step in and make a change for good by using force or demands. Every time this ~~does happen~~, ~~this~~ only ~~creates~~ a new generation of terrorists, actively working to break our nation for stepping in.		This simple fact is why the Liminal State does not get involved in other nation’s affairs, regardless of how bad the people are treated. There is no way to step in and make a change for good by using force or demands. Every time this has happened, it's only created a new generation of terrorists, actively working to break our nation for stepping in.

	==== Ideal Situation ====		==== Ideal Situation ====
	The Liminal State would not go in and beat up those parents, but would rather call the authorities and alert them to the situation. But without the authority given to our police by virtue of the social contract between the people and the government, there is no civilized way to otherwise affect the change that we want for that neighborhood family.		The Liminal State would not go in and beat up those parents, but would rather call the authorities and alert them to the situation. But without the authority given to our police by virtue of the social contract between the people and the government, there is no civilized way to otherwise affect the change that we want for that neighborhood family.

	In the case of a foreign nation badly treating their citizens, there are no international police, nor a strong international body with the necessary legal infrastructure in place to ensure the citizen’s welfare. And we cannot be the ones to take matters into our own hands, no matter how much we would wish to.		In the case of a foreign nation badly treating their citizens, there are no international police, nor a strong international body with the necessary legal infrastructure and cooperative agreements in place to ensure the citizen’s welfare. And we cannot be the ones to take matters into our own hands, no matter how much we would wish to.

	==== Future Work ====		==== Future Work ====
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	In the Liminal State the environment includes all living and non-living things. That includes humans, the planet Earth, and all the natural systems that currently sustain life here, as well as any future habitats in space, other planets, etc. The environment is completely inclusive and in the Liminal State the activities of the few for personal gain may not impact the environment to the detriment of any.		In the Liminal State the environment includes all living and non-living things. That includes humans, the planet Earth, and all the natural systems that currently sustain life here, as well as any future habitats in space, other planets, etc. The environment is completely inclusive and in the Liminal State the activities of the few for personal gain may not impact the environment to the detriment of any.

	Using the model of ~~The~~ Neighborhood, the environment is like the neighborhood park. It’s there for all to enjoy, humans and wildlife alike. We wouldn’t allow one of our neighbors to open a landfill in our park, but that is exactly how businesses ~~and~~ the ~~governments treat~~ our environment now.		Using the model of the ''Neighborhood'', the environment is like the neighborhood park. It’s there for all to enjoy, humans and wildlife alike. We wouldn’t allow one of our neighbors to open a landfill in our park for their personal gain, but that is exactly how businesses with the blessing of the government treats our environment now.

	==== Current Abuse ====		==== Current Abuse ====
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	There is a better path and a real answer to this, and the Liminal State changes this entire dynamic. Because every citizen is important, and because those without a political voice have further protections, the answer isn’t to build it somewhere out of political sight, but rather to change the way things work so a landfill isn’t needed.		There is a better path and a real answer to this, and the Liminal State changes this entire dynamic. Because every citizen is important, and because those without a political voice have further protections, the answer isn’t to build it somewhere out of political sight, but rather to change the way things work so a landfill isn’t needed.

	The Liminal State would look at this problem and could see multiple solutions, including in how we generate waste. It’s completely within our ability to make things reusable and easily recyclable. It’s easy to incentivize the markets to encourage the use of recycled materials and de-incentivize petroleum use for new plastics. Instead of creating a landfill in ~~another neighborhood’s park~~, we instead change the waste stream and build a clean, environmentally friendly recycling center that brings good quality, safe jobs to ~~our~~ neighborhood.		The Liminal State would look at this problem and could see multiple solutions, including in how we generate waste. It’s completely within our ability to make things reusable and easily recyclable. It’s easy to incentivize the markets to encourage the use of recycled materials and de-incentivize petroleum use for new plastics. Instead of creating a landfill in the backyards of the politically voiceless, we instead change the waste stream and build a clean, environmentally-friendly recycling center that brings good quality, safe jobs to a neighborhood that would fight to get it.

	This is only a simple example, but it’s never a choice between us and them or the rich and the poor. There are always other options that can work for everyone, so long as the ~~citizens~~ are in charge of the choice and not corporations. The Liminal State is willing to look for those options and choose the best one that doesn’t hurt people in exchange for short-sighted and short-term profits.		This is only a simple example, but it’s never a choice between us and them or the rich and the poor. There are always other options that can work for everyone, so long as the ''Citizens'' are in charge of the choice and not corporations. The Liminal State is willing to look for those options and choose the best one that doesn’t hurt people in exchange for short-sighted and short-term profits.

	=== '''Site Navigation''' ===		=== '''Site Navigation''' ===

Mr Fox at 19:12, 1 August 2026

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	==== Defense ====		==== Defense ====
	Although non-violent, the Liminal State recognizes that other groups or nations might not respect our own self-determination, and we will defend that right vigorously. Therefore the Liminal State will exercise its right to develop a formidable military for defensive purposes. While diplomacy is the highest priority to the Liminal State, we will not bow to outside forces.		Although non-violent, the Liminal State recognizes that other groups or nations might not respect our own self-determination, and we will defend that right vigorously. Therefore, the Liminal State will exercise its right to develop a formidable military for defensive purposes and will protect its borders aggressively. While diplomacy is the highest priority to the Liminal State, we will not bow to outside forces.

	Should there come a time to defend ourselves, the Liminal State will never act proactively. We will defend ourselves at our Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), and will ~~aggressively~~ pursue the most advanced military equipment to aid us in this endeavor. Switzerland could be a model to emulate, and we will take lessons from them and their perseverance through WWII.		Should there come a time to defend ourselves, the Liminal State will never act proactively. We will defend ourselves at our Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), and will actively pursue the most advanced military equipment to aid us in this endeavor. Switzerland could be a model to emulate, and we will take lessons from them and their perseverance through WWII.

	==== Non-Lethal Defense ====		==== Non-Lethal Defense ====
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	==== Protecting People ====		==== Protecting People ====
	The employment of embargos and sanctions harms the people most in need in other nations, and we will do everything within our power to help people abroad after employing our own domestic success. We will be the role model for other nations and all people, and we will call all our friends. It is through this work and cooperation that we will be able to offer the world the most help, up until that time that an international coalition of all nations is able to police the unjust ~~activity~~ of all nations.		The employment of embargos and sanctions harms the people most in need in other nations, and we will do everything within our power to help people abroad after employing our own domestic success. We will be the role model for other nations and all people, and we will call all our friends. It is through this work and cooperation that we will be able to offer the world the most help, up until that time that an international coalition of all nations is able to police the unjust activities of all nations.

	==== Liminal State Rights ====		==== Liminal State Rights ====
	Just because we do not take sides in an international conflict does not mean that we would trade arms with ~~the~~ aggressor. The Liminal State reserves the sovereign right to trade or limit trade with anyone and for anything.		Just because we do not take sides in an international conflict does not mean that we would continue to trade arms with an aggressor. The Liminal State reserves the sovereign right to trade or limit trade with anyone and for anything.

	Using the neighborhood example, this means that, while we would not intervene with two other neighbors fighting with each other, we would not be obligated to ~~sell~~ either of those neighbors a gun if they asked. Rather we ~~would~~ choose to ~~limit trade to food~~ and ~~medication with both neighbors~~.		Using the neighborhood example, this means that, while we would not intervene with two other neighbors fighting with each other, we would not be obligated to lend either of those neighbors a gun if they asked. Rather we might choose to bring each a casserole and offer them childcare.

	=== '''International Atrocities''' ===		=== '''International Atrocities''' ===
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	==== Current Practice ====		==== Current Practice ====
	Our nations and worldviews today tell us that it’s just and right to go in and make these other nations be better to the people, and we use force, coercion, and other underhanded methods to try and achieve those ends. Because we believe we are better than them, so we must stand up and do something for them.		Our nations and worldviews today tell us that it’s just and right to go in and make these other nations be better to the people, and we use force, coercion, and other underhanded methods to try and achieve those ends. Because we believe we are better than them, we must stand up and do something for them.

	==== Harsh Reality ====		==== Harsh Reality ====
	But that’s not how these stories end. If we, as neighbors, go in and beat up those parents so they stop hurting their children, do we really expect those children to thank us? They won’t, because what are they to do now? We’ve left them helpless and their family broken. Maybe we set up a democracy for that other nation, which is the equivalent of sending those children to foster parents, but those kids will not end up any better for our involvement, and may end up worse.		But that’s not how these stories end. If we, as neighbors, go in and beat up those parents so they stop hurting their children, do we really expect those children to thank us? They won’t, because what are they to do now? We’ve left them helpless and their family broken. Maybe we set up a democracy for that other nation, which is the equivalent of sending those children to foster parents, but those kids will not end up any better for our involvement, and may end up worse.

	This simple fact is why the Liminal State does not get involved in other nation’s affairs, regardless how bad the people are treated. There is no way to step in and make a change for good by using force or demands. ~~Everytime~~ this does happen, this only creates a new generation of terrorists, actively working to break our nation for stepping in.		This simple fact is why the Liminal State does not get involved in other nation’s affairs, regardless of how bad the people are treated. There is no way to step in and make a change for good by using force or demands. Every time this does happen, this only creates a new generation of terrorists, actively working to break our nation for stepping in.

	==== Ideal Situation ====		==== Ideal Situation ====
	The Liminal State would not go in and beat up those parents, but would rather call the authorities and alert them to the situation. But without the authority given to our police by virtue of the social contract between the people and the government, there ~~would be~~ no civilized way to otherwise affect the change that we want for that neighborhood family.		The Liminal State would not go in and beat up those parents, but would rather call the authorities and alert them to the situation. But without the authority given to our police by virtue of the social contract between the people and the government, there is no civilized way to otherwise affect the change that we want for that neighborhood family.

	In the case of a foreign nation badly treating their citizens, there are no international police, nor a strong international body with the necessary legal infrastructure in place to ensure the citizen’s welfare. And we cannot be the ones to take matters into our own hands, no matter how much we would wish to.		In the case of a foreign nation badly treating their citizens, there are no international police, nor a strong international body with the necessary legal infrastructure in place to ensure the citizen’s welfare. And we cannot be the ones to take matters into our own hands, no matter how much we would wish to.

Mr Fox at 03:49, 1 August 2026

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	Although non-violent, the Liminal State recognizes that other groups or nations might not respect our own self-determination, and we will defend that right vigorously. Therefore the Liminal State will exercise its right to develop a formidable military for defensive purposes. While diplomacy is the highest priority to the Liminal State, we will not bow to outside forces.		Although non-violent, the Liminal State recognizes that other groups or nations might not respect our own self-determination, and we will defend that right vigorously. Therefore the Liminal State will exercise its right to develop a formidable military for defensive purposes. While diplomacy is the highest priority to the Liminal State, we will not bow to outside forces.

	Should there come a time to defend ourselves, the Liminal State will never act proactively. We will defend ourselves at our ~~border~~, and will aggressively pursue the most advanced military equipment to aid us in this endeavor. Switzerland could be a model to emulate, and we will take lessons from them and their perseverance through WWII.		Should there come a time to defend ourselves, the Liminal State will never act proactively. We will defend ourselves at our Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), and will aggressively pursue the most advanced military equipment to aid us in this endeavor. Switzerland could be a model to emulate, and we will take lessons from them and their perseverance through WWII.

	==== Non-Lethal Defense ====		==== Non-Lethal Defense ====

Mr Fox at 02:22, 26 July 2026

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