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	=== '''Fundamentals''' ===		=== '''Fundamentals''' ===

	Because this approach is taken, laws may never target only a portion of the population, overtly or covertly, unless they apply to a specific pre-defined group as a whole. The Liminal State recognizes three pre-defined groups: ''Non-Citizens'', ''Protected Citizens'' (children, some with an intellectual disability, etc.), and ''Emancipated Citizens'' (adults). Any laws specifically applied to one of these groups must still work within the minimum legal framework of the Liminal State.		Because this approach is taken, laws may never target only a portion of the population, overtly or covertly, unless they apply to a specific pre-defined group as a whole. This requirement exists with ''Citizen Initiative''s as well as law originating from the government of the Liminal State (with certain very narrow exceptions, such as taxation brackets). The Liminal State recognizes three pre-defined groups: ''Non-Citizens'', ''Protected Citizens'' (children, some with an intellectual disability, etc.), and ''Emancipated Citizens'' (adults). Any laws specifically applied to one of these groups must still work within the minimum legal framework of the Liminal State.
	Example 1: A law forbidding men from owning guns would not be allowed, but a law that prevents ''Protected Citizens'' from owning guns would be.		Example 1: A law forbidding men from owning guns would not be allowed, but a law that prevents ''Protected Citizens'' from owning guns would be.
	Even if a law uses ambiguous or misleading language which overtly doesn’t appear to target a specific sub-group, yet by virtue of the way enforcement would need to be applied still would, that too would be illegal. It is prohibited for any laws to be written in any way that would, in practice, disproportionately affect a subgroup within one of these pre-defined groups.		Even if a law uses ambiguous or misleading language which overtly doesn’t appear to target a specific sub-group, yet by virtue of the way enforcement would need to be applied still would, that too would be illegal. It is prohibited for any laws to be written in any way that would, in practice, disproportionately affect a subgroup within one of these pre-defined groups.

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	=== '''Citizen Control''' ===		=== '''Citizen Control''' ===
	''Citizens'' affect their communities and ~~the safety and prosperity provided by~~ the Liminal State in direct ways. In addition to a government, via the Liminal State, that inherently protects and promotes the ''Citizens'' by insuring their total well-being above all else, ''Citizens'' also impact their communities in direct ways that are uniquely provided by the Liminal State.		''Citizens'' affect their communities and the Liminal State in direct ways. In addition to a government, via the Liminal State, that inherently protects and promotes the ''Citizens'' by insuring their total well-being above all else, ''Citizens'' also impact their communities in direct ways that are uniquely provided by the Liminal State.

	The ''Citizen Initiative'' ~~provides~~ a ~~path for~~ important ~~issues that impact the~~ community to ~~be available for~~ a ~~vote within the community. The legal framework of the~~ ''~~Citizen Initiative~~'' ~~protects this process from outside or corporate influence, meaning~~ that ~~only~~ the ''Citizens'' ~~within~~ a ~~''Political Boundary'' can participate in the process. This is~~ the ~~main mechanism used by~~ ''Citizens'' to ~~shape their communities the way they want~~, ~~since the Liminal State as a government instead focuses on the big-picture issues, like international relations, regulation of businesses to protect~~ the ''Citizens'' ~~from harmful or unfair practices, environmental protection~~ to ~~ensure the~~ ''~~Citizens~~'' ~~health and well-being~~, ~~etc.~~		The ''Citizen Initiative'' is a process by which the people can gather signatures to address any important issue facing thier community. This may be in response to a regulation enacted by a ''Branch'' that the ''Citizens'' wish to challenge, a new law the ''Citizens'' wish to enact, or any situation that the ''Citizens'' wish to investigate that may have been neglected by an ''Enforcement Agency''. In all cases, the process is the same:

	~~There may~~ be ~~issues that overlap~~ the ~~usual purview~~ of the ~~Liminal State and~~ the ~~interests~~ of the ~~community~~. ~~While~~ the ~~expertise~~ and ~~decisions~~ of the ''~~Government Personnel~~'' ~~should always~~ be ~~sound based~~ on the ~~inherent meritocracy built into~~ the ~~Liminal State~~, the ''Citizens'' ~~themselves can always challenge any regulation decided by any~~ ''~~Branch~~'' ~~via a~~ ''Citizen Jury.'' The ~~process~~ of ~~convening a~~ ''Citizen Jury'' is the ~~same~~ as ~~getting a~~ ''Citizen ~~Initiative~~'' on the ~~ballot~~, ~~except~~ that ~~instead of proposing a community law,~~ the ~~process would instead get~~ the ~~regulation in question on~~ the ~~ballot~~ to ~~be decided by~~ the ''Citizens''.		# The regulation in question must be identified, the language of a new potential law developed, or a summary of the requested investigation formalized. In all cases the wording must pass the scrutiny of the J''ustice Department'' to be ballot ready.
			# The ''Citizens'' must gather at least 10% of the ''Emancipated Citizens''' signatures within that ''Political Boundary''. The legal framework of the ''Citizen Initiative'' protects this process from outside or corporate influence, meaning that only the ''Citizens'' within a ''Political Boundary'' can participate in the process, and no money may be paid to gather signatures nor to promote the cause.
			# With the wording of the ballot measure passing the scrutiny of the ''Justice Department'' and enough signatures gathered, the issue is automatically added to the next ballot to be voted on by the ''Eligible Voters'' within this ''Political Boundary''. It also activates the next step, the instantiation of a ''Citizen Jury''.
			# Before the next election, 99 ''Emancipated Citizens'' from within the ''Political Boundary'' will be selected at random to convene as the ''Citizen Jury''.
			## The purpose of this jury is not to decide the matter, but rather to hear all the available evidence on behalf of the wider community and allow those ''Citizens'' comprising the ''Citizen Jury'' to investigate, call witnesses and experts, and ask questions regarding the regulation, law, or investigation being scrutinized.
			## The authority of the 99 jurors to investigate the matter is not limited, and they will also be discussing among themselves and their own respective communities, as the jury will convene on weekends and as availability permits, meaning the process may take weeks or months.
			# The purpose of the ''Citizen Jury'' is to provide a venue for the discussion of relevant details of the issue, law, or regulation, the impacts on the community, and any other factors that the ''Eligible Voters'' within the ''Political Boundary'' might need answered to make an informed vote.
			## Using the jury ensures the issues are heard without censorship from every side and all jury members have the ability to ask questions on behalf of the public at large.
			## The jury is composed of 99 random ''Emancipated'' ''Citizens'' to ensure there is enough people to have a large enough sample of the population that every important question can be asked and there is no chance of corrupting the jury, but not so big that the process and format is unweildly.
			## The entire process is recorded and available to the public so they may inform their own decisions when it comes time to vote.

	~~With enough signatures gathered~~ to ~~convene~~ a ~~''Citizen Jury'', the~~ regulation ~~in question is automatically placed on the ballot of the next election to be decided by the ''Eligible Voters'' within that ''Political Boundary''. Before the next election~~, ~~99 ''Emancipated Citizens'' from within the affected ''Political Boundary'' will be selected at random to convene as~~ the ''Citizen Jury''. The purpose of this jury is not to decide the matter, but rather to hear all the available evidence and allow the ''Citizens'' composing the ''Citizen Jury'' to investigate and ask questions regarding the regulation in question. The experts who enacted the regulation from the responsible ''Branch'' will defend their decision and provide relevant information for the basis of that decision. At the same time those that oppose the regulation will present their information and defend their position. The 99 jurors can ask any questions they wish, call additional witnesses, ask for additional experts, etc. Their authority to investigate the matter is not limited, and they will also be discussing among themselves their own positions and their own thoughts.		Example 1: In the case of a challenge to a regulation, the experts who enacted the regulation from the responsible ''Branch'' will defend their decision and provide relevant information for the basis of that decision. At the same time those that oppose the regulation will present their information and defend their position.

	The purpose of the ''Citizen Jury'' is to provide a venue for the discussion of relevant details of the regulation, the impacts on the community, and any other factors that the ''Eligible Voters'' within the ''Political Boundary'' might need answered to make an informed vote. Using the jury ensures the issues are heard without censorship from every side and all jury members have the ability to ask questions on behalf of the public at large. The jury is composed of 99 random ''Emancipated'' ''Citizens'' to ensure there is enough people to have a large enough sample of the population that every important question can be asked and there is no chance of corrupting the jury, but not so big that the process and format is unweildly. The entire process is recorded and available to the public so they may inform their own decisions when it comes time to vote.		Example 2: With the Epstein situation in the US, where the elites are apparently using all their power and influence to keep the information from going public, in the Liminal State the ''Citizens'' could collect the required signatures to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', which would then have total investigative and subpoena powers to thoroughly and publicly investigate the issue. Ultimately this would ensure a vote on the matter, which if successful, would force the government to take action. Of course with the absolute transparency provided in the Liminal State, something monstrous like this should never happen in the first place, but at least the ''Citizens'' have the power to act should elected leaders or the bureaucracy fail.
			This is the main mechanism used by ''Citizens'' to shape their communities the way they want, since the Liminal State as a government instead focuses on the big-picture issues, like international relations, regulation of businesses to protect the ''Citizens'' from harmful or unfair practices, environmental protection to ensure the ''Citizens'' health and well-being, etc. Yet the Citizens always have direct control over their government through this process, even if it is to push back against the experts. At the very least, this process will educate the Citizens so their vote is always intelligently placed and well informed.
	In the same way that the ''Citizen Jury'' can be convened to fight an unpopular regulation, the same process is used to convene the jury in situations where the ''Citizens'' feel an issue is not being addressed that needs more attention. An example would be the Epstein situation in the US, where the elites are apparently using all their power and influence to keep the information from going public~~. In~~ the Liminal State the ''Citizens'' could collect the required signatures to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', which would then have total investigative and subpoena powers to thoroughly and publicly ~~get to the bottom of~~ the issue~~, ultimately forcing~~ a vote, which if successful, would force the government to take action. Of course with the absolute transparency provided in the Liminal State, something monstrous like this should never happen in the first place, but at least the ''Citizens'' have the power to act ~~when~~ elected leaders fail.

	=== '''Conclusion''' ===		=== '''Conclusion''' ===

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	On the other hand, local communities have much more power over their own lives within the Liminal State. A town, for example, may pass laws to restrict their freedoms however they wish (within the minimum legal framework of the Liminal State). They would still be forbidden from passing a law banning men from owning guns, but they could ban all gun ownership within their community, while the next town over may allow gun ownership across all pre-defined groups.		On the other hand, local communities have much more power over their own lives within the Liminal State. A town, for example, may pass laws to restrict their freedoms however they wish (within the minimum legal framework of the Liminal State). They would still be forbidden from passing a law banning men from owning guns, but they could ban all gun ownership within their community, while the next town over may allow gun ownership across all pre-defined groups.

	In this way ''Citizens'' can mold their communities the way they see fit and all communities can learn from one another. With the previous example, surrounding communities could watch and see how these laws regarding gun ownership affect the school shootings, personal defense, domestic violence, inconvenience to hunters, etc. in those communities. The same goes for abortion, vaccines, transgendered bathrooms, etc. All these hot-button social issues that are currently being debated nationally would be better addressed locally, and only within the Liminal State is it possible to do this. When these ideas get tried locally and real data behind the effects of these laws becomes available, those winning ideas from the local level will gain additional support and get proposed at a higher level. Only the best ideas and laws will rise to the top, and through demonstrable data and popular support will the best ideas become national laws.		In this way ''Citizens'' can mold their communities the way they see fit and all communities can learn from one another. With the previous example, surrounding communities could watch and see how these laws regarding gun ownership affect the school shootings, personal defense, domestic violence, inconvenience to hunters, etc. in those communities. The same goes for abortion limitations, vaccines mandates, transgendered bathrooms, etc. All these hot-button social issues that are currently being debated nationally would be better addressed locally, and only within the Liminal State is it possible to do this. When these ideas get tried locally and real data behind the effects of these laws becomes available, those winning ideas from the local level will gain additional support and get proposed at a higher level. Only the best ideas and laws will rise to the top, and through demonstrable data and popular support will the best ideas become national laws.

	=== '''Citizen Control''' ===		=== '''Citizen Control''' ===
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	The purpose of the ''Citizen Jury'' is to provide a venue for the discussion of relevant details of the regulation, the impacts on the community, and any other factors that the ''Eligible Voters'' within the ''Political Boundary'' might need answered to make an informed vote. Using the jury ensures the issues are heard without censorship from every side and all jury members have the ability to ask questions on behalf of the public at large. The jury is composed of 99 random ''Emancipated'' ''Citizens'' to ensure there is enough people to have a large enough sample of the population that every important question can be asked and there is no chance of corrupting the jury, but not so big that the process and format is unweildly. The entire process is recorded and available to the public so they may inform their own decisions when it comes time to vote.		The purpose of the ''Citizen Jury'' is to provide a venue for the discussion of relevant details of the regulation, the impacts on the community, and any other factors that the ''Eligible Voters'' within the ''Political Boundary'' might need answered to make an informed vote. Using the jury ensures the issues are heard without censorship from every side and all jury members have the ability to ask questions on behalf of the public at large. The jury is composed of 99 random ''Emancipated'' ''Citizens'' to ensure there is enough people to have a large enough sample of the population that every important question can be asked and there is no chance of corrupting the jury, but not so big that the process and format is unweildly. The entire process is recorded and available to the public so they may inform their own decisions when it comes time to vote.

	In the same way that the ''Citizen Jury'' can be convened to fight an unpopular regulation, the same process is used to convene the jury in situations where the ''Citizens'' feel an issue is not being addressed that needs more attention. An example would be the Epstein situation in the US, where the elites are apparently using all their power and influence to keep the information from going public. In the Liminal State the ''Citizens'' could collect the required signatures to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', which would then have total ~~investitive~~ and subpoena powers to thoroughly and publicly get to the bottom of the issue, ultimately forcing a vote, which if successful, would force the government to take action. Of course with the absolute transparency provided in the Liminal State, something monstrous like this should never happen in the first place, but at least the ''Citizens'' have the power to act when elected leaders fail.		In the same way that the ''Citizen Jury'' can be convened to fight an unpopular regulation, the same process is used to convene the jury in situations where the ''Citizens'' feel an issue is not being addressed that needs more attention. An example would be the Epstein situation in the US, where the elites are apparently using all their power and influence to keep the information from going public. In the Liminal State the ''Citizens'' could collect the required signatures to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', which would then have total investigative and subpoena powers to thoroughly and publicly get to the bottom of the issue, ultimately forcing a vote, which if successful, would force the government to take action. Of course with the absolute transparency provided in the Liminal State, something monstrous like this should never happen in the first place, but at least the ''Citizens'' have the power to act when elected leaders fail.

	=== '''Conclusion''' ===		=== '''Conclusion''' ===

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	=== '''Summation''' ===		=== '''Summation''' ===
	In the Liminal State, all people start with complete freedom. Foundational laws then create a level playing field by ensuring all are treated equally and the people are prioritized above all else. Citizens then pass subsequent laws to restrict these freedoms for themselves in the most limited ways possible, until there is an ideal balance between freedoms and the limits on those freedoms, and a balanced social construct has been reached where ~~all ''Citizens''~~ can live and work together in this healthy, productive, and fulfilled society.		In the Liminal State, all people start with complete freedom. Foundational laws then create a level playing field by ensuring all are treated equally and the people are prioritized above all else. ''Citizens'' then pass subsequent laws to restrict these freedoms for themselves in the most limited ways possible, until there is an ideal balance between freedoms and the limits on those freedoms, and a balanced social construct has been reached where everyone can live and work together in this healthy, productive, and fulfilled society.

	=== '''Fundamentals''' ===		=== '''Fundamentals''' ===


	Because this approach is taken, laws may never target only a portion of the population, overtly or covertly, unless they apply to a specific pre-defined group as a whole. The Liminal State recognizes three pre-defined groups: ''Non-Citizens'', ''Protected Citizens'' (children, some with an intellectual disability, etc.), and ''Emancipated Citizens'' (adults). Any laws specifically applied to one of these groups must still work within the minimum legal framework of the Liminal State.		Because this approach is taken, laws may never target only a portion of the population, overtly or covertly, unless they apply to a specific pre-defined group as a whole. The Liminal State recognizes three pre-defined groups: ''Non-Citizens'', ''Protected Citizens'' (children, some with an intellectual disability, etc.), and ''Emancipated Citizens'' (adults). Any laws specifically applied to one of these groups must still work within the minimum legal framework of the Liminal State.

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	=== '''Building New''' ===		=== '''Building New''' ===
	The Liminal State instead deconstructs these sources, takes lessons from history, philosophy~~, ethics~~, science, ~~and even evolutionary~~ psychology, and ultimately asks “what do we really need to coexist in a modern society?” In essence, the Liminal State starts with a blank slate and builds up; using a unique and far more equitable method among existing democracies for creating new laws and and shaping our communities.		The Liminal State instead deconstructs these sources, takes lessons from history, philosophy, science, psychology, sociology, etc., and ultimately asks “what do we really need to coexist in a modern society?” In essence, the Liminal State starts with a blank slate and builds up; using a unique and far more equitable method among existing democracies for creating new laws and and shaping our communities.

	To begin with, the laws ensuring universal equality and basic freedoms, those expected of any modern society, are set from the start and are immutable. Communities then decide for themselves what limitations they wish to impose upon themselves within this framework, with the Liminal State focusing on those aspects of governance that fall outside the scope of social issues. While there is some gray area here, this generally means that the Liminal State will first ensure all are treated fairly and with equality of opportunity, then focus on maintain infrastructure, the regulations affecting the economy, business practices, etc. On the other hand, the ''Citizens'' will shape the laws that impact their local communities based on their own values.		To begin with, the laws ensuring universal equality and basic freedoms, those expected of any modern society, are set from the start and are immutable. Communities then decide for themselves what limitations they wish to impose upon themselves within this framework, with the Liminal State focusing on those aspects of governance that fall outside the scope of social issues. While there is some gray area here, this generally means that the Liminal State will first ensure all are treated fairly and with equality of opportunity, then focus on maintain infrastructure, the regulations affecting the economy, business practices, etc. On the other hand, the ''Citizens'' will shape the laws that impact their local communities based on their own values.

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	The ''Citizen Initiative'' provides a path for important issues that impact the community to be available for a vote within the community. The legal framework of the ''Citizen Initiative'' protects this process from outside or corporate influence, meaning that only the ''Citizens'' within a ''Political Boundary'' can participate in the process. This is the main mechanism used by ''Citizens'' to shape their communities the way they want, since the Liminal State as a government instead focuses on the big-picture issues, like international relations, regulation of businesses to protect the ''Citizens'' from harmful or unfair practices, environmental protection to ensure the ''Citizens'' health and well-being, etc.		The ''Citizen Initiative'' provides a path for important issues that impact the community to be available for a vote within the community. The legal framework of the ''Citizen Initiative'' protects this process from outside or corporate influence, meaning that only the ''Citizens'' within a ''Political Boundary'' can participate in the process. This is the main mechanism used by ''Citizens'' to shape their communities the way they want, since the Liminal State as a government instead focuses on the big-picture issues, like international relations, regulation of businesses to protect the ''Citizens'' from harmful or unfair practices, environmental protection to ensure the ''Citizens'' health and well-being, etc.

	There may be issues that overlap the usual purview of the Liminal State and the interests of the community. While the expertise of the ''Government Personnel'' ~~within the Liminal State~~ should always be sound, the ''Citizens'' themselves can always challenge any regulation decided by any ''Branch'' via a ''Citizen Jury.'' The process of convening a ''Citizen Jury'' is the same ~~process~~ as getting a ''Citizen Initiative'' on the ballot, except that instead of ~~the issue being about~~ a ~~proposed~~ community law, it would instead get the regulation on the ballot to be decided by the ''Citizens''.		There may be issues that overlap the usual purview of the Liminal State and the interests of the community. While the expertise and decisions of the ''Government Personnel'' should always be sound based on the inherent meritocracy built into the Liminal State, the ''Citizens'' themselves can always challenge any regulation decided by any ''Branch'' via a ''Citizen Jury.'' The process of convening a ''Citizen Jury'' is the same as getting a ''Citizen Initiative'' on the ballot, except that instead of proposing a community law, the process would instead get the regulation in question on the ballot to be decided by the ''Citizens''.

	With enough signatures gathered to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', the regulation in question is automatically placed on the ballot of the next election to be decided by the ''Eligible Voters'' within that ''Political Boundary''. Before the next election, 99 ''Emancipated Citizens'' from within the affected ''Political Boundary'' will be selected at random to convene as the ''Citizen Jury''. The purpose of this jury is not to decide the matter, but rather to hear all the available evidence and allow ~~all interested parties~~ to ask questions. The experts who enacted the regulation from the responsible ''Branch'' will defend their decision and provide relevant information for the basis of that decision. At the same time those that oppose the regulation will present their information and defend their position. The 99 jurors can ask any questions they wish, call additional witnesses, ask for additional experts, etc. Their authority to investigate the matter is not limited, and they will also be discussing among themselves their own positions and their own thoughts.		With enough signatures gathered to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', the regulation in question is automatically placed on the ballot of the next election to be decided by the ''Eligible Voters'' within that ''Political Boundary''. Before the next election, 99 ''Emancipated Citizens'' from within the affected ''Political Boundary'' will be selected at random to convene as the ''Citizen Jury''. The purpose of this jury is not to decide the matter, but rather to hear all the available evidence and allow the ''Citizens'' composing the ''Citizen Jury'' to investigate and ask questions regarding the regulation in question. The experts who enacted the regulation from the responsible ''Branch'' will defend their decision and provide relevant information for the basis of that decision. At the same time those that oppose the regulation will present their information and defend their position. The 99 jurors can ask any questions they wish, call additional witnesses, ask for additional experts, etc. Their authority to investigate the matter is not limited, and they will also be discussing among themselves their own positions and their own thoughts.

	The purpose of the ''Citizen Jury'' is to provide a venue for the discussion of relevant details of the regulation, the impacts on the community, and any other factors that the ''~~Citizens~~'' within the ''Political Boundary'' might need answered to make an informed vote. The jury is composed of 99 random ''Emancipated'' ''Citizens'' to ensure the ~~issues are heard without censorship from~~ every ~~side, all~~ jury ~~members have the ability to ask questions~~, ~~and without it being too many people~~ that ~~only~~ the ~~loudest voices would be heard~~. The entire process is recorded and available to the public so they may inform their own decisions when it comes time to vote.		The purpose of the ''Citizen Jury'' is to provide a venue for the discussion of relevant details of the regulation, the impacts on the community, and any other factors that the ''Eligible Voters'' within the ''Political Boundary'' might need answered to make an informed vote. Using the jury ensures the issues are heard without censorship from every side and all jury members have the ability to ask questions on behalf of the public at large. The jury is composed of 99 random ''Emancipated'' ''Citizens'' to ensure there is enough people to have a large enough sample of the population that every important question can be asked and there is no chance of corrupting the jury, but not so big that the process and format is unweildly. The entire process is recorded and available to the public so they may inform their own decisions when it comes time to vote.

	In the same way that the ''Citizen Jury'' can be convened to fight an unpopular regulation, the same process is used to convene the jury in situations where the ''Citizens'' feel an issue is not being addressed that needs more attention. An example would be the Epstein situation in the US, where the elites are apparently using all their power and influence to keep the information from going public. In the Liminal State the ''Citizens'' could collect the required signatures to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', which would then have total investitive and subpoena powers to thoroughly and publicly get to the bottom of the issue, ultimately forcing a vote, which if successful, would force the government to take action. Of course with the absolute transparency provided in the Liminal State something monstrous like this should never happen in the first place, but at least the ''Citizens'' have the power to act when elected leaders fail.		In the same way that the ''Citizen Jury'' can be convened to fight an unpopular regulation, the same process is used to convene the jury in situations where the ''Citizens'' feel an issue is not being addressed that needs more attention. An example would be the Epstein situation in the US, where the elites are apparently using all their power and influence to keep the information from going public. In the Liminal State the ''Citizens'' could collect the required signatures to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', which would then have total investitive and subpoena powers to thoroughly and publicly get to the bottom of the issue, ultimately forcing a vote, which if successful, would force the government to take action. Of course with the absolute transparency provided in the Liminal State, something monstrous like this should never happen in the first place, but at least the ''Citizens'' have the power to act when elected leaders fail.

	=== '''Conclusion''' ===		=== '''Conclusion''' ===

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	=== '''~~Piers~~ of ~~Chalk~~''' ===		=== '''Layers of Paint''' ===
	It may be surprising ~~to some~~ that many nations currently have ~~jurisprudence~~ originating in medieval precedence, ~~from works such as~~ the Magna Carta, Bible ~~or Quran~~, or even ~~based on~~ the Code of Hammurabi. ~~Over time these~~ laws ~~may stop being enforced~~, ~~their meaning redefined~~, or sometimes ~~they are capriciously enforced for nefarious reasons by the political elites as they dictate their preferences onto society~~.		It may be surprising that many nations currently have laws originating from medieval precedence, the Magna Carta, the Quran, the Bible, or even the Code of Hammurabi. Our understanding of the world, society, the government, and ourselves has changed dramatically over the last 4000 years, so shouldn't our jurisprudence? It could be argued that the interpretation of those laws have evolved, but instead of adding a new coat of paint to a dilapidated structure, sometimes it's best to tear it all down and build new.

	=== '''New ~~Bedrock~~''' ===		=== '''Building New''' ===
	The Liminal State instead deconstructs these sources, takes lessons from history, philosophy, ethics, science, and even evolutionary psychology, and ultimately asks “what do we really need to coexist in a modern society?” In essence, the Liminal State starts with a blank slate and builds up; using a unique and far more equitable method among existing democracies for creating new laws and and shaping our communities.		The Liminal State instead deconstructs these sources, takes lessons from history, philosophy, ethics, science, and even evolutionary psychology, and ultimately asks “what do we really need to coexist in a modern society?” In essence, the Liminal State starts with a blank slate and builds up; using a unique and far more equitable method among existing democracies for creating new laws and and shaping our communities.

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	The Liminal State instead deconstructs these sources, takes lessons from history, philosophy, ethics, science, and even evolutionary psychology, and ultimately asks “what do we really need to coexist in a modern society?” In essence, the Liminal State starts with a blank slate and builds up; using a unique and far more equitable method among existing democracies for creating new laws and and shaping our communities.		The Liminal State instead deconstructs these sources, takes lessons from history, philosophy, ethics, science, and even evolutionary psychology, and ultimately asks “what do we really need to coexist in a modern society?” In essence, the Liminal State starts with a blank slate and builds up; using a unique and far more equitable method among existing democracies for creating new laws and and shaping our communities.

	To begin with, the laws ensuring universal equality and basic freedoms, those expected of any modern society, are set from the start and are immutable. Communities then decide for themselves what limitations they wish to impose upon themselves within this framework, with the Liminal State focusing on those aspects of governance that fall outside the scope of social issues. While there is some gray area here, this generally means that the Liminal State will first ensure all are treated ~~equally~~ and ~~fairly~~, then focus on maintain infrastructure, the regulations affecting the economy, business practices, etc. On the other hand, the ''Citizens'' will shape the laws that impact their local communities based on their own values.		To begin with, the laws ensuring universal equality and basic freedoms, those expected of any modern society, are set from the start and are immutable. Communities then decide for themselves what limitations they wish to impose upon themselves within this framework, with the Liminal State focusing on those aspects of governance that fall outside the scope of social issues. While there is some gray area here, this generally means that the Liminal State will first ensure all are treated fairly and with equality of opportunity, then focus on maintain infrastructure, the regulations affecting the economy, business practices, etc. On the other hand, the ''Citizens'' will shape the laws that impact their local communities based on their own values.

	This philosophy makes the Liminal State the only government intentionally designed from inception to accommodate vast populations with unique perspectives and cultures, and perhaps therefore the only governmental structure that could ever work at an international level.		This philosophy makes the Liminal State the only government intentionally designed from inception to accommodate vast populations with unique perspectives and cultures, and perhaps therefore the only governmental structure that could ever work at an international level.

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	There may be issues that overlap the usual purview of the Liminal State and the interests of the community. While the expertise of the ''Government Personnel'' within the Liminal State should always be sound, the ''Citizens'' themselves can always challenge any regulation decided by any ''Branch'' via a ''Citizen Jury.'' The process of convening a ''Citizen Jury'' is the same process as getting a ''Citizen Initiative'' on the ballot, except that instead of the issue being about a proposed community law, it would instead get the regulation on the ballot to be decided by the ''Citizens''.		There may be issues that overlap the usual purview of the Liminal State and the interests of the community. While the expertise of the ''Government Personnel'' within the Liminal State should always be sound, the ''Citizens'' themselves can always challenge any regulation decided by any ''Branch'' via a ''Citizen Jury.'' The process of convening a ''Citizen Jury'' is the same process as getting a ''Citizen Initiative'' on the ballot, except that instead of the issue being about a proposed community law, it would instead get the regulation on the ballot to be decided by the ''Citizens''.

	With enough signatures gathered to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', the regulation in question is automatically placed on the ballot of the next election to be decided by the ''Eligible Voters'' within that ''Political Boundary''. Before the next election, 99 ''Citizens'' from within the ~~effected~~ ''Political Boundary'' will be selected at random to convene as the ''Citizen Jury''. The purpose of this jury is not to decide the matter, but rather to hear all the available evidence and allow all interested parties to ask questions. The experts who enacted the regulation from the responsible ''Branch'' will defend their decision and provide relevant information for the basis of that decision. At the same time those that oppose the regulation will present their information and defend their position. The 99 jurors can ask any questions they wish, call additional witnesses, ask for additional experts, etc. Their authority to investigate the matter is not limited, and they will also be discussing among themselves their own positions and their own thoughts.		With enough signatures gathered to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', the regulation in question is automatically placed on the ballot of the next election to be decided by the ''Eligible Voters'' within that ''Political Boundary''. Before the next election, 99 ''Emancipated Citizens'' from within the affected ''Political Boundary'' will be selected at random to convene as the ''Citizen Jury''. The purpose of this jury is not to decide the matter, but rather to hear all the available evidence and allow all interested parties to ask questions. The experts who enacted the regulation from the responsible ''Branch'' will defend their decision and provide relevant information for the basis of that decision. At the same time those that oppose the regulation will present their information and defend their position. The 99 jurors can ask any questions they wish, call additional witnesses, ask for additional experts, etc. Their authority to investigate the matter is not limited, and they will also be discussing among themselves their own positions and their own thoughts.

	The purpose of the ''Citizen Jury'' is to provide a venue for the discussion of relevant details of the regulation, the impacts on the community, and any other factors that the ''Citizens'' within the ''Political Boundary'' might need answered to make an informed vote. The jury is composed of 99 random ''Citizens'' to ensure the issues are heard without censorship from every side, all jury members have the ability to ask questions, and without it being too many people that only the loudest voices would be heard. The entire process is recorded and available to ~~all~~ the ~~''Eligible Voters''~~ so they may inform their own decisions when it comes time to vote.		The purpose of the ''Citizen Jury'' is to provide a venue for the discussion of relevant details of the regulation, the impacts on the community, and any other factors that the ''Citizens'' within the ''Political Boundary'' might need answered to make an informed vote. The jury is composed of 99 random ''Emancipated'' ''Citizens'' to ensure the issues are heard without censorship from every side, all jury members have the ability to ask questions, and without it being too many people that only the loudest voices would be heard. The entire process is recorded and available to the public so they may inform their own decisions when it comes time to vote.

			In the same way that the ''Citizen Jury'' can be convened to fight an unpopular regulation, the same process is used to convene the jury in situations where the ''Citizens'' feel an issue is not being addressed that needs more attention. An example would be the Epstein situation in the US, where the elites are apparently using all their power and influence to keep the information from going public. In the Liminal State the ''Citizens'' could collect the required signatures to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', which would then have total investitive and subpoena powers to thoroughly and publicly get to the bottom of the issue, ultimately forcing a vote, which if successful, would force the government to take action. Of course with the absolute transparency provided in the Liminal State something monstrous like this should never happen in the first place, but at least the ''Citizens'' have the power to act when elected leaders fail.

	=== '''Conclusion''' ===		=== '''Conclusion''' ===

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	In this way ''Citizens'' can mold their communities the way they see fit and all communities can learn from one another. With the previous example, surrounding communities could watch and see how these laws regarding gun ownership affect the school shootings, personal defense, domestic violence, inconvenience to hunters, etc. in those communities. The same goes for abortion, vaccines, transgendered bathrooms, etc. All these hot-button social issues that are currently being debated nationally would be better addressed locally, and only within the Liminal State is it possible to do this. When these ideas get tried locally and real data behind the effects of these laws becomes available, those winning ideas from the local level will gain additional support and get proposed at a higher level. Only the best ideas and laws will rise to the top, and through demonstrable data and popular support will the best ideas become national laws.		In this way ''Citizens'' can mold their communities the way they see fit and all communities can learn from one another. With the previous example, surrounding communities could watch and see how these laws regarding gun ownership affect the school shootings, personal defense, domestic violence, inconvenience to hunters, etc. in those communities. The same goes for abortion, vaccines, transgendered bathrooms, etc. All these hot-button social issues that are currently being debated nationally would be better addressed locally, and only within the Liminal State is it possible to do this. When these ideas get tried locally and real data behind the effects of these laws becomes available, those winning ideas from the local level will gain additional support and get proposed at a higher level. Only the best ideas and laws will rise to the top, and through demonstrable data and popular support will the best ideas become national laws.

			=== '''Citizen Control''' ===
			''Citizens'' affect their communities and the safety and prosperity provided by the Liminal State in direct ways. In addition to a government, via the Liminal State, that inherently protects and promotes the ''Citizens'' by insuring their total well-being above all else, ''Citizens'' also impact their communities in direct ways that are uniquely provided by the Liminal State.

			The ''Citizen Initiative'' provides a path for important issues that impact the community to be available for a vote within the community. The legal framework of the ''Citizen Initiative'' protects this process from outside or corporate influence, meaning that only the ''Citizens'' within a ''Political Boundary'' can participate in the process. This is the main mechanism used by ''Citizens'' to shape their communities the way they want, since the Liminal State as a government instead focuses on the big-picture issues, like international relations, regulation of businesses to protect the ''Citizens'' from harmful or unfair practices, environmental protection to ensure the ''Citizens'' health and well-being, etc.

			There may be issues that overlap the usual purview of the Liminal State and the interests of the community. While the expertise of the ''Government Personnel'' within the Liminal State should always be sound, the ''Citizens'' themselves can always challenge any regulation decided by any ''Branch'' via a ''Citizen Jury.'' The process of convening a ''Citizen Jury'' is the same process as getting a ''Citizen Initiative'' on the ballot, except that instead of the issue being about a proposed community law, it would instead get the regulation on the ballot to be decided by the ''Citizens''.

			With enough signatures gathered to convene a ''Citizen Jury'', the regulation in question is automatically placed on the ballot of the next election to be decided by the ''Eligible Voters'' within that ''Political Boundary''. Before the next election, 99 ''Citizens'' from within the effected ''Political Boundary'' will be selected at random to convene as the ''Citizen Jury''. The purpose of this jury is not to decide the matter, but rather to hear all the available evidence and allow all interested parties to ask questions. The experts who enacted the regulation from the responsible ''Branch'' will defend their decision and provide relevant information for the basis of that decision. At the same time those that oppose the regulation will present their information and defend their position. The 99 jurors can ask any questions they wish, call additional witnesses, ask for additional experts, etc. Their authority to investigate the matter is not limited, and they will also be discussing among themselves their own positions and their own thoughts.

			The purpose of the ''Citizen Jury'' is to provide a venue for the discussion of relevant details of the regulation, the impacts on the community, and any other factors that the ''Citizens'' within the ''Political Boundary'' might need answered to make an informed vote. The jury is composed of 99 random ''Citizens'' to ensure the issues are heard without censorship from every side, all jury members have the ability to ask questions, and without it being too many people that only the loudest voices would be heard. The entire process is recorded and available to all the ''Eligible Voters'' so they may inform their own decisions when it comes time to vote.

	=== '''Conclusion''' ===		=== '''Conclusion''' ===